The Hebrew Roots movement and even 119 Ministries are not cults. Those who are deceived with a different spirit and different Jesus are the last to know. Ephesians 2:13-15. I have never heard them say you must follow the Law to be saved. What I said was true and the truth does not care what I think about it . You sound arrogant and demeaning all at the same time in your above speech and I take issue with it. Because the practice for millenia (before the modern day and still in some parts of the middle east) was that the contractual commitment was made at the betrothal stage and only formalized by wedding banquet; a writ of divorce was needed to break a betrothal, not just after a marriage was consummated.). I used to be a Protestant, but when I stopped reading the scriptures with my fundamentalist blinders on, I began to see that the spiritual is more real than the temporal. This deception is shared with many other groups such as The Hebrew Roots Movement (who DENY the New Covenant in Jesus Blood completely) and countless small and large scale evangelists throughout the world and internetland. Like Priscilla and Aquila, my Messianic Jewish wife and I minister from a home church in Italy, on the front lines in the battle against the sin of idolatry, right in the Vaticans backyard. Husbands who used to worship beside their wives and set an example for their children are now obsessed with the law so much that they are crippling their children & absolutely destroying their wives. More than once, I have addressed them, both privately and publicly. Jesus was a Jew from the tribe of Judah, we are grafted into Israel, made common wealth citizens to Israel through adoption. (Renewed because the Greek is kainos not neos. Did you happen to also point out that no penalty, much less the death penalty, was assessed for a man who married two sisters at the same time? That doesnt make sense, because we are Israel. Required fields are marked *. (2Co 11:6) But even if I am unskilled in word,b yet not in knowledge; but, in every way we have been manifested among you in all matters. Although 27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. To make void the law/commandments because of the grace God gave us? Starting with condemning Christmas and Easter (yes, I know there are very many practices around these events that are of questionable origin that doesnt mean it means the same thing today with current believers God looks at the heart, last time I checked) because they arent Feasts of the Lord, meanwhile practicing Hanukkah and Purim, which are not Feasts of the Lord either. I try wholeheartedly to be a faithful servant of Jesus Christ. Amein to that Sharon.. I am too busy nor do I have the money for expensive shofar s and no time for festivals people here are dead eternally and overseas people are hungry both spiritually and physically. If we think we can do it better than Yahweh originally articulated the rules for righteous life, then we are foolish at best. The Law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus; whose new covenant blood was offered in heavens Holy of holies for our eternal redemption, is very active, presently. Again, BEST DECISION WE HAVE EVER MADE. As it relates to our credibility, we readily admit that we have none. Gal. This causes conflicts with a lot of denominational doctrines that is being taught today. Foundational We believe the whole unchanging Word of God is for all in the faith, and applicable today. So in closing we are saved by grace, thru faith to obey His commandments in the Holy Spirit and it all equals life! I havent looked at any of their doctrines? The term Covenant was added in certain places where it does not exist in the Greek and Aramaic which has led to incorrect doctrine. I will repay, He outshines anything that ever was. THEN, they BECOME one of the little ones, just like you and me dear Brethren, who are SO little, so unheard, so mocked, so despised, so unimportant, so uninfluential, that NO ONE could possibly take us seriously. Sorry, but I see absolutely no sound biblical reasons for your objections. . . Also look up what the Catholic church actually states about itself and how they changed the Sabbath. As a servant of Jesus Christ, I am filled with the Holy Spirit! The scribes and Pharisees were reading from the Torah while in Moses seat. AND, they will so piously, (due to being CARNAL and not spiritual) expect Jesus to let them in because He says, Whenever you did/did not do it for the least one of My followers, you did/did not do it to Me. A quick study will promptly show the Hebrew names for months are also intact example: Nissan/Aviv. Well, I learned a thing or two. 18 Yes indeed! You can either put aside your wounded pride and hurt feelings and remember that God can use his servants to chastise those whom he loves. So were Paul and Peter. Many take Romans 6:14 out of context and think that Christs death freed us from the Law of God. Grace & peace to you! Ive asked for a while & will continue. I was disowned by most of my family when that happened. cuz he wasnt a single or married woman, or a farmer, etc. Dear Brothers and Sisters in Christ please consider this. So, please reconsider your stance on cult for all the reasons Ive noted. The Word says he that turns his ear away from HEARING THE LAW, his prayer will be an abomination. This is easy to prove that this is a common position simply from experience. And all enemies will be defeated before Christs return.. when the last enemy, Death, is finally and completely obliterated. I never once thought of them as a cult. Ill pray that the Lord will open his eyes and that he will not be deceived. We are all saved by grace through faith in Jesus i.e., God incarnate. And another challenged me, and another and so I decided to prove them wrong. For the record, I have met, in the last 5-6 years, many lovely HR people who youd likely mistake for the wonderfully emotional joyous evangelicals praising Messiah and the work of the Holy Spirit in their life, or similar to the glorious African-American Baptists ready to sing praises about Yeshua at every opportunity while still keeping whatever part of Gods law that applies to them. 10:34, and one friend of mine feels this way regarding his strained relationship saying he must follow the commands if YHWH even at his familys expense. Yeshua HaMashiac Jesus Christ. Praise God! Your pejorative idea that speaking Hebrew words is a prideful thing of knowledge and warning of it being a spirit one take by exercising Jewish things. But I am. Remember that WE broke Gods laws and instructions / WE are the sinners, not YHWH. When Yeshua the Messiah went into the Temple courtyard to overturn the tables of the money changers, he made himself a whip, with the traditional knots. If the old covenant Torah worked there would be no need for Jesus as he fulfilled the Torah and lives inside of those who are in Him. I just looked at 2 videos. And I can say that since my former neighbor went to Seminary and became a pastor himself. 3 teaches the NC in present tense the Torah was given at Sinai, it was given so it could be written down. If you need a refresher, heres the link to it: http://biblelaw101.com/ShouldLeviticus1818BeUnderstoodasProhibitingP-3.html. He accomplished the torah under the Mosaic covenant. Are you Jewish? You make so many points well, logically. After reading literally every single comment on this blog, I must say it has been very informative and each side of the debate is very spirited. Then in my opinion? I have been reading several articles on your site and I must say, I will pray for you. The word COVENANT does not exist in the original Greek or Aramaic manuscripts and so people mistakenly claim this proves the New Covenant supersedes the Old (if you examine every single Covenant in Scripture that God has made you will see that when a new covenant is made it never negates the one that came before it.) As far as the 119 leadership, I do not know any of them personally. Even the new commandments given by Christ are found in the Old Testament/Torah. That is an outright lie at worst and a misrepresentation at best. Which is again a huge example of the importance of freedom in Christ. If you blink, youll miss the slight of hand. They are challenging the status quo of todays Christianity and false doctrines that are in place due to the traditions of men. ( works of love demonstrations of love ..Jesus said he did not come of His own volition but God sent him ..God took action ..He did something because He cared but oh did it have a cost ! Jeremiah 31:31-33 (NIV) {emphasis added with capital letters]. (others have different spellings and pronunciations for his name, same as for the Father, Yahuah). ). Romans 6:23 One Law different Covenants. One my children obeys my rules far more than the other. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. the Body of the Messiah by offering free, testable, easily sharable, quality teachings for you and your house. But I can say that that teaching on the rapture is truly in line with the full context of scripture! He then goes on to say that this New Covenant will be based on the very commandments he is giving that very day. Along with that note that it is very clear with whom the NEW COVENANT will be made: The house of Israel and the house of Judah (aka northern kingdom and southern kingdom respectively.) The two choices presented by 119 Ministries are absolutely misleading. I will follow the Words and example of my Messiah who died for me and HE said to trust Moses. I tried looking up the definition of cult in the 1828 Websters dictionary, (to dispel political correct definitions) and I find no result. Simply put, John 14:15. or why not ? Are people just SKIMMING NT Scripture or really reading it? (((I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts.))) Ive GOT IT! Feel free to argue with Strong as you wish. A deeper torah came from Messiah taking us from head knowledge to heart actions. a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. Whose commandments? BUT they will KILL us (the REAL Israel) at the drop of a hat and smugly snuggle up together under the One World Banner, together committing adultery with the harlot of Revelation! You choose to punish anyone that does not swallow the rhetoric and not be just like you or your congregational system. The Vatican hates the Torah because it stands in the way of the Roman Catholic clergys blatant attempts to infiltrate the true Body of the Messiah Yeshua and do grave damage. If its proper for the resurrected Messiah to meet with His disciples on the first day of the week, its proper for me! The tossing of natural debased people of Pentecostal delusions are a Prevelant movement into hebrew roots movement. We should always go to Gods Word to find truth. Come and walk around the east coast city I live in with me and you will SEE how an experiential walk with the living new covenant Torah is like. NO those are not our choices. NO, as He still has to come back! How much more severer punishment he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant he WAS SANCTIFIED, and has insulted the Holy Spirit of grace? ( Hebrews 10:29) Are you saying works are pointless? I do not question that God intended His entire Word (biblical scripture) to be understood and obeyed. This is the great and first commandment. Yes, it is the law of God inextricably given in great detail (613 commandments) to the people of Israel for their guidance as they were being prepared to enter the promised land and live as a holy nation unto God. Leah, with respect to the word new used in that a new commandment I give you portion in the Greek it is kainos which means renewed (like the new moon each month isnt really a new different moon.) I became a Christian about 35 years ago. Well, in all honesty, I couldnt care less what you think of me. Please feel free to comment on anything and ask questions. The red flags are when your pastor asks for money and calls it tithing. No. Jews live by trusting faith in the wisdom of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It sounds very cultic to me. I am a myself am Messianic though labels are create schism so lets just say Im a Believer. 5:1). The Law came 430 years AFTER the promise to Abraham; meaning there was NO LAW at the time of Abraham and it is at that position that we as believers in Christ are grafted inNOT based on lawbut by means of a promise.. It is my belief that they are presenting a different gospel. 18 And keep growing in grace and knowledge of our Lord and Deliverer, Yeshua the Messiah. Why does Gods word say Ruach Elohim rather than simply Elohim? You seemingly dismiss the Hebrew word ruach (Strongs Hebrew #7307) as only meaning breath. Yes, it is translated breath about 27 times in the word of God. I remembered that Jesus had said, "I am the . Was she in submission to us? still apply? I went to church and bible study frequently as a child and a young adult. GRACE has existed since the Garden of Eden and is taught in Judaism. To do the commandments of the Father. I had never heard of any such thing as a Hebrew Roots movement at the time. The following is stated on page 1 of the transcript, The word fulfilled and Matthew 5:17 are either interpreted as being fulfilled in the sense of fully preaching or teaching the law of God, or fulfilling in the sense of no longer making the law of God applicable. As Dale Carnegie said A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.. One of the few things that make a cult, a cult, is recruitment. When the Ruach came upon me. Defraud your neighbor? A couple of days later, the devotional read, "The doorway to freedom is submission". Keeping The Law of Moses has nothing to do with salvation, but sanctification. Do you not think there is a reason for each and every Word Yahweh uttered in the Scriptures? Messiah. As you say, to those who walk in freedom from sin, sin is undesirable. http://biblelaw101.com/ShouldLeviticus1818BeUnderstoodasProhibitingP-3.html. I had to know for myself why I believed what I believed and not because that was what I was taught by the pastors and teachers in my life. Now many confuse the scriptures saying our righteousness is as of filthy rags and that we are made righteous by Him, so we are under no obligation to obey the sabbath, feasts, etc. . Its utterly impossible, a complete waste of time and energy. Our earthly Messiah only spoke the words given Him by His heavenly Father. I know exactly what you are saying, I was taught that too in the Christian churches. Its commanded LOL I can hear a voice now screaming judge not lest ye be judged. Do what is right for you and your family. And btw even the Catholic church claims THEY changed the Sabbath and that the Protestants give homage to them by keeping Sunday. By the way, a Judaizer is someone who convinces people to follow man-made doctrines above the Torah, the Prophets and the Holy Writings (from Psalms to 2 Chronicles according to the Hebrew order, the one recognized by Yeshua and his disciples). He needs truth. Yes Im sure it is. Bless you bro! Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD. From there, they conclude that as followers of Jesus Christ, we are to obey the law of Moses. The word of God needs no defending. As an example, you said, I learned that the trinity is nothing but paganism. Yet you later say, I follow Yahusha. (a.k.a. Christ is ruling and reigning now seated at the right hand of the Father.. and we are there legally with him now.. also ruling as kings and priests. We are all on a journey and name-calling has no place here on your ministry page. The domination of the Romans and Greeks took over and their antisemitic views hijacked Christianity.. How are you? Seventh, I recommend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow But if we are afraid that they might harm us or our wives, children, servants, cattle, etc., then let us emulate the common sense of other nations such as France, Spain, Bohemia, etc., then eject them forever from the country . As Paul teaches, Gentiles who believe are now PART of Israel, and now no longer Gentiles. I thought to myself, Why would our Creator allow for us to keep all the other commands, but do away with one? Why appoint times for special feasts to be held that were meant to be everlasting only to do away with them later? Why do people feel that the commands of God are considered burdensome or to be in bondage? If we were given Ten Commandments and are taught about them from early on, why do we teach later that we still have Ten Commandments, but only live by nine? In those videos, I even subtly referred to 119 because Wilber contributes to their research and production. (oh, oh, I must be a 7th day Adventist! NO, I am a humble servant and Sister to Yahusha, the daughter of Yahuah. A cult tends to not let followers have their own opinions where 119 tells you to test everything. 119 Ministries also locally supports the homeless, elderly, widows, and orphans in various capacities. You are going to have to define grace so I know what you mean when you use the word. Many english words have their origin in latin , greek and of course hebrew I say Amen out of tradition but I also say Let it be so Sean I am not against understanding some Hebrew for the meanings of the words are obviously important just as in english. The rapture happens exactly when Christ said it would and he mentions it several times in John 6. [fn] Aleph Blessed are those whose ways are blameless, who walk according to the law of the L ORD. My point here is the commandments stay but the methodology changes. That also ties in with james ..faith with out works is dead . They teach people how to be seen as great in the kingdom of heaven. He said he was being slandered behind his back by some people in order to separate disciples. 17 What I am saying is this: the Law, which came four hundred and thirty years later, does not invalidate a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to nullify the promise. So my question is this if he the LORD walked away from the Jews for not obeying his words what makes you THINK he has a different standard for everyone else. In fact the entire book of Hebrews is Gods love to encourage Messsnic believers going thru persecution just prior to the destruction of the second Temple ..and Jerusalem! I am a Messianic Jew. In other words, you have been saved (begun) by the Spirit, how can you think your sanctification will happen by the flesh (i.e. a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. Thank you. The plan is literally revealed on every page; every word has intricate purpose and meaning. 28 Someone who disregards the Torah of Moshe is put to death without mercy on the word of two or three witnesses. cult/noun noun: cult; plural noun: cults By the way, if you read the Book of Acts and his letter to the Galatians, you will clearly see that he never stopped being Jewish. So again , yes it is about salvation , well, we will have to disagree here. They merely include the 1 you no doubt exclude. But many wives? May Gods Holy Spirit, which lives in me, give me discernment about the truth of Gods Word and the teaching of others. (Aside: you and John McKee were two young men mocking an elder of the people.) Paul didnt die for you. and the life was the light of mankind. A lot of Christians are taking the bait due to their interest in prophecy and Mark Biltzs blood moon theories. What did Jesus say? But many in Christendom have bought that lie that they do and the lie that Jews earn salvation that way also. He was not at all declaring that to the world. So please stop perpetuating that falsehood. I have looked over 119 and their teachings are presented in a logical order, use lots of scripture, they explain the definitions for a reasonable person and understand it, and who is to say they dont do it out of love? The bulk of your reply was an ad hominem attack on me. I am, however, sick and tired of watching the majority of Christians being manipulated by the Adversary, who takes enormous pleasure in using many of you to hurt my people and keep us as far away as possible from the truth about our Messiah. Their vocabularies didnt contain a word that could even come close to the Torah (instructions, commandments, laws, ordinances, rulings). Again, there is joy found in following the law of the Lord, His statutes, precepts, commands, and ordinances. Its a doing not a feeling. Do you see the synonyms? -2 Corinthians 11:3-4 YHWHS Holy Spirit never contradicts the Word of God whether thats the written version or the Living Word. 5 The light shines in the darkness, The problem with Jacob and his wives is yours, not Gods. 17 But you, dear friends, since you know this in advance, guard yourselves; so that you will not be led away by the errors of the wicked and fall from your own secure position. If left strictly to ourselves we do what we want to do. Im sorry, but with all due respect, there is no comparison whatsoever between the Hebrew word Torah and the Greek word nomos. When I speak Italian, I do my best never to think in English, Spanish or German. The fact is, thanks to Jesus, those who trust in Him for their salvation are grafted INTO the Commonwealth of Israel (again, see Pauls explanation in Romans 11) and as Israel, we should be following what God outlined FOR Israel. If you believe that you can live in this world and keep a foot in Gods kingdom, youre so wrong. http://www.eliyah.com/galatianskjv.html, Whew. The blueprints show what the final product is to be. In spite of there at times being sinful and selfish leadership within The Church, the magisterium (core teachings) have remained unchanged since the first century. The confusion comes with lack of understanding in WHICH LAW was done away with. teaching from 119 Ministries, but I want to test everything by the Word of God. I did it when I left the RCC to become born again at a Baptist assembly. Im thankful you are seeking to understand where your friends are walking & I will pray for God to give you wisdom in discerning the truth. At best some think going to church is the way but their hearts are far from God. They use emotional videos which engage the senses to sensationalize their message, granted that is the point of most audio/visual media; however when dealing with teaching people, emotionalism is underhanded in my book, on par with TV commercials. There is a Mosaic old covenant Torah which contains 613 laws from Exodus ending in Dueteronomy. As an example, He taught in John 13:34, A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. Have you not read the following? Thank you for YOUR time. If you disagree, please read Matthew 5:21-28 and Matthew 19:7-9 before responding. And God is clear in many places how HE wants to be shown love from us. Let me tell you my story on the short. Israel was the lost sheep the messiah came for, then he extended this to sheep we did not know of. Leah, stay strong! 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